Peticija srpskih naučnika / A Petition of Serbian scientists
Quoted post
produktivnost |
#3 Re: Re:2015-01-15 21:01To samo znaci da taj neko nije dostojan tog zvanja. To treba problematizovati a ne produktivne mlade |
Replies
Naucnik |
#4 Re: Re: Re:2015-01-15 21:50:36to je samo delimicno tacno, zato sto je produktivnost vrlo razlicita u razlicitim oblastima istrazivanja - ja sam biolog, za objavljivanje jednog dobrog rada, moram prvo da idem po kojekakvim terenima u odredjeno vreme godine tokom 2-3 godine da sakupim materijal za istrazivanje, pa da (nadjem pare) da radim u laboratoriji, pa da analiziram podatke i napisem i objavim rad, za cije objavljivanje mogu da cekam u najboljem slucaju 3 meseca, a evo sad imam situaciju da jako dobar rad ne mogu da objavim vec 2.5 godine. A znam za neke radove u drugim oblastima istrazivanja za koje od ideje do objavljivanja treba maximum pola godine. Pored toga, naucni rad ne obuhvata samo obajvljivanje radova - mladi, i da kazem ipak neiskusni naucnici, ipak ne mogu biti u Editoral Board naucnih casopisa, Scientific Commities naucnih skupova, imati plenarna predavanja na naucnim skupovima, itd, a pojedini iskusniji naucnici u visim zvanjima to mogu i jesu, jer ipak imaju neki renome - a sve te stvari se potpuno ignorisu po sadasnjem sistemu vrednovanja naucnog rada, po kojem je jedini kriterijum - broj objavljenih radova. A produktivni mladi naucnici dobijaju 'jednu kategoriju vise kao bonus' jer su produktivni samo po pitanju objavljivanja naucnih radova. Ali, sa druge strane, ima i zloupotreba od strane 'starijih' do kojih je doveo sadasnji sistem - moj kolega to lepo zove 'salamy science' - podelis svoje rezultate na male delove, pa sve publikujes kao zasebne radove, i 'sakupis' dovoljo bodova da imas visoku kategoriju i zvanje, a zapravo nisi resio nikakav sustinski naucni problem tokom celokupnog naucnog rada, a poseban slucaj je ako se tvoji usitnjeni rezultati medjusobno pobijajau!!!!! Tako da te sadasnji sistem 'tera' da objavljujes gluposti da bi sakupio bodove i imao visoku platu, a zapravo sustinsko pitanje je KVALITET I ZNACAJ objavljenih radova, i sta su naucni radovi resili i doprineli u datoj oblasti istrazivanja. A da ne spominjem dopisivanje autora na radove, pri cemu ti autori nisu ama bas nista doprineli tom radu. Stvari su mnooooogo komplikovanije od onog sto se sada prihvata i vrednuje.... U pitanju je jako los sistem, i problematicna etika naucnog rada naucnika. |
PETITION OPPOSING ARROWHEAD AIRPARK IN CASS COUNTY MISSOURI
Keep the Saturday evening jazz concerts at the Roxbury Library
Oppose Islamophobia Definition
📜 PETITION TO THE PARLIAMENTARY COMMITTEE ON THE HEALTH CARE COMPLAINTS COMMISSION (HCCC)
Petition Against the Installation of a Biodigester at Wilson Rd, Fairfield Township, Madison County, Ohio
Cancel NPC's Car Park Management Contract in GMV West
Relocate The Shed
Proclamation for a Restored Republic
STOP THE MINE IN NUNASVAARA
Hardworking People Against AB 928
The adoption and ratification of a new calendar for the United Global Trade Organization
Bend to the Beach Road Initiative
Is there something you want to change?
Change doesn't happen by staying silent. The author of this petition stood up and took action. Will you do the same? Start a social movement by creating a petition.
Start a petition of your ownOther petitions you might be interested in
Justice For Cwecwe
1173704 Created: 2025-03-27
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 1173704 |
2025 | 1173659 |
Help Mr. Chau Get his job back!!!
804 Created: 2025-03-25
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 804 |
2025 | 804 |
For the maximum effective sentence for Gabriela Sashova and Krasimir Georgiev, and for legislative changes envisaging harsher penalties for crimes committed against animals!
204281 Created: 2025-03-14
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 204281 |
2025 | 204271 |
Petition to Provo City Council In Opposition of a Waterpark at Slate Canyon
532 Created: 2025-04-23
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 532 |
2025 | 532 |
#Justice_For_Cwecwe
92041 Created: 2025-03-29
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 92041 |
2025 | 92036 |
Stop Wes Moore, and his desperate power grab to change historic tag qualification's.
387 Created: 2025-05-22
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 387 |
2025 | 387 |
Richard Bong State Recreation Area Class 1 Dog Training Area Requested Change
386 Created: 2025-06-17
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 386 |
2025 | 386 |
PETITION OPPOSING ARROWHEAD AIRPARK IN CASS COUNTY MISSOURI
348 Created: 2025-04-28
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 348 |
2025 | 347 |
Life University Student Concerns Over New Attendance Policy
345 Created: 2025-05-28
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 345 |
2025 | 344 |
Petition to Protect and Preserve St. Joseph County Parks
326 Created: 2025-05-08
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 326 |
2025 | 326 |
Hardworking People Against AB 928
314 Created: 2025-06-19
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 314 |
2025 | 314 |
Justice For Cwecwe
33303 Created: 2025-03-28
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 33303 |
2025 | 33302 |
Stop the Deforestation of Otsego County
236 Created: 2025-01-05
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 236 |
2025 | 236 |
Stop the destruction of a 3500 year old grave!
975 Created: 2025-01-19
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 975 |
2025 | 975 |
Stop Industrial Development in North Manheim Township
855 Created: 2024-10-07
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 855 |
2025 | 208 |
SAVE THE HISTORICAL FORT GATES FERRY
178 Created: 2025-01-15
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 178 |
2025 | 178 |
Asking Rep. Pete Stauber to hold in person town halls.
162 Created: 2025-02-14
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 162 |
2025 | 162 |
The removal of the day use fee at our local lakes here surrounding Williams Arizona
158 Created: 2025-05-04
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 158 |
2025 | 158 |
Deny Modification of Conditions regarding Bonney Bright Sand Company
146 Created: 2025-01-06
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 146 |
2025 | 146 |
To keep Hayden Lambert out of the school. Keep our babies safe!
142 Created: 2025-01-24
Time period | Number of signatures |
---|---|
All time | 142 |
2025 | 142 |