Hands Off Hartlebury Common

#288: - Re:

You need barbed wire, my friend has 550 head of cattle. If or rather when they get curious and lean, down will come the fence. 1/2 ton each, just 3 cattle, one ton of pressure.

The council has stopped grazing because of the risk of high value flora and fauna being destroyed.

Now they are going to introduce cattle. Where are the experts now, hiding?

#303: - Re: Re: fences

What is flora and fauna ?

#303: - Re: Re: fences 

#308: Jim -

The tree cutting now is far more excessive than anything previously.

I have this book and as a conservationist I would say it is very subjective and is not proof of anything. There are numerous contradictions and mistakes. Dating of stone formations, subseqent change to strata and geology. I have written reports and carried out commended surveys before and understand how these mistakes can be made. The point you are missing, just one of many is that nobody has a right to alter the common in any way and to artificially re-create a snapshot based on the information in this book is foolhardy. The Hartlebury commons group like to compare two photos showing a view from the upper terrace towards titton lane. On the newer one there appears to be much more tree growth, however.Tuckers photos are ariel and look down between the trees and so you can see much more of the open space, the later photo is taken from the ground across the landscape, thus hiding the open space. Try looking at the google earth image from 2007 and see how much space there is.

If you cannot see what is wrong with what is being done after reading my petition, I do not think you would have a change of heart, whatever information to the contrary was put in front of you.

We have 400 written signatures against this scheme and that figure is rising all the time. Shopkeepers tell me that they are printing there own sheets as we can only get 15 on each sheet. People are asking to be included and are asking for sheets to take away. A few hours ago one stourport trader told me that no body he asked was in favour and most people were glad to be able to make there thoughts known.

If it is such a good idea, why dosn't somebody start a campaign for the changes?

#309: - Re:

The project has not been fully explained to anyone at any time.

#313: Jim -  

#313: Jim -

Yes I know, I know the open spaces site well.

I'm sorry you do not understand what you are reading is the most basic representation of the cases you think are relevant.

If you knew what I meant which you do not obviously, you could tell me the glaring omissions.

My background, whats yours?

All I will say is that all will be revealed and nothing I have said is a lie

#320: - Re: Re: Re: yawn

People have a good laugh at your comments, you have attained cult status. We dialogue with people direct now, the comments page is irrelevant now because of you but it has strengthened our cause. thanks. You are doomed to failure and unlike me and our supporters you are to frightened to make yoursef, yourselves known. Six pages of signatures from one shop alone, leave some more weird comments, your sort always are there against right, you are are a phenomenon in these sorts of campaigns.